mcconnell and chuck schumer and probably harry reid, too. they are going to go to the leaders and say that we propose that you kick the can down the road of next year. but by certain dates, we are expecting you to do certain things of the ways and means and finance, and if you don't, simpson-bowles -- simpson-bowles is going to have to be tweaked a little bit. and a former senator from new hampshire, and i think edmund delle, they are working on a group called fix the debt. what they are doing is -- simpson-bowles was theoretical. it really never was flushed out in terms of language, and did not do enough in the entitlement side. so there is a document that would actually put dates in requirements and say, by the way, you're going to be faced with simpson-bowles plus. the problem is that's what this question was. >> my first job in washington was working for a magazine called the congressional quarterly. unlike a kid, i went out and studied all the rules until somebody took me aside and said there is only one rule that you need to know. and